Friday, August 18, 2006

Kollel II

In Eretz Yisroel, the government sponsors many basic living expenses, such as medical insurance and some other basic necessities. Also, the standard of living is more restrained than in America. It's easier not to have a lot when most everyone is in the same boat as you. The biggest expense in Israel for a Kollel family is the dirah, and often that is provided by his or her parents. But often that is not the case, and more effort is sometimes needed to get a place to live. Lately, new neighborhoods have opened up in Eretz Yisroel, such as Beth Shemesh, Kiryat Sefer, and Beitar, where housing is more reasonable than in Yerushalayim proper.

It's not simple, but so much of the country is based on the Kollel life that the society itself usually ends up working things out to accommodate it.

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If you said you wanted to become a doctor and find the cure to cancer, would anyone object?

Even if it means living off research grants?

Do you think that doctors should not accept research grants, or that they should choose other professions because if they chose the research field they would have to live off someone's donations?

Or would they feel that finding the cure to cancer is worth it, and since research grants are the only way to do it, then more power to you?

Why is it that to find the cure to cancer, you can live off "donations", or to run a social service agency where you feed the poor people of Africa, which survives from donations, but the holy work of learning Torah is not good enough to deserve doing it by donation?

And what kind of donation is this anyway? If I pay you because I think what you are doing benefits me, you, and the world, then you are a paid worker, not a recipient of charity.

So if I pay you to dance for me or to be my personal trainer in fitness or my nutritionist, that’s OK, right?

But if I pay you to learn Torah, to provide me with the eternal merit of Talmud Torah ala Yissachar and Zevulun that’s not acceptable?

If I provide you with a healthier body then you can pay me - if I was your chauffeur I would be entitled to payment, but if I provide you with a ride to Olam Habah that’s nothing?

Go ask a Zionist why they allow the State of Israel to exist based on the donations of people in chutz la'aretz, including United States grants and loans. Ask him if he has a problem with UJA funds going to build the land, or donations going to buy bullet proof vests for soldiers. Then point out that if not for the support of donations, Israel would not survive a week.

According to the Congressional Research Service, the United States will have spent over $90 billion by the end of this year in foreign aid to Israel.

Ninety billion dollars means dollars cash for every single person living in America; with that money you could purchase every single sports team in existence: baseball, basketball, football and hockey - all of them (according to Forbes, it would run you about 22 billion, so you'll have enough left to buy yourself some skyscrapers too); according to Save the Children, it takes around $240 a year to save one child in a poor country - with $3 billion you could save twelve and a half million children - more than double the entire Jewish population of Israel, or, if you prefer, $3 billion could buy you over 8,000 Rolls Royces.

$3 billion is also more than the annual economy (GDP) of over 25% of all the countries in the world (55 out of 173 countries in the entire world).

Each year, Israel receives $3 billion dollars from the U.S. making it, a country of six million people, the largest foreign recipient of American taxpayer dollars.

Ask a Zionist who preaches that all Jews should come live in Israel, if all Jews would live in Israel, who would support them all????

They will invariably answer you that Israel's survival maintenance and flourishing is a vital concern that supersedes all of the above concerns, and if currently the only way it can survive is by being the biggest shnorror country in the world, if that's what it takes then that’s what we will do.

And they will answer to the question of who would support Israel if all the Jews moved there, that that is not our concern; that G-d provides for the Jews when they do the right thing, and Aliyah is a greater cause that should not be impeded because of such theoretical problems. Who know what will happen, they will say, if all Jews make aliyah? Maybe Moshiach will come and we won’t have a problem!

They will tell you that Israel is vital for the Jewish survival and that its survival is a must-have, and after that is secured, we will worry about the lesser concerns.

Well, it used to be, in times far more lofty and Torah oriented than these, that this attitude was directed at a different entity, that Jews felt was so vital to our existence that at all costs it must survive and flourish - and that used to be learning Torah!

We used to realize - and unfortunately some modernists lost this fundamental Torah belief - that it is the Torah learning of the Torah scholars that keep us safe; that is the most vital commodity to Jewish survival; that bring holiness and blessing and Divine Influence and peace and prosperity into the world, and that it must be supported no matter what!

Every single extra little kid - or adult - that learns every single little extra line of Gemora changes the world for the better.

Like finding the cure to cancer, like providing bullet-proof vests to soldiers, like marrying off orphans and supporting widows.

Like giving life to klall yisroel.

Ask someone what he would say if you were looking for a partner to open an organization dedicated to helping treat cancer victims. You will do the medical and social part and you are looking for a partner to do the administrative/fundraising part.

Would be object to that?

And if you and he decided to create such an organization it would be OK.

Then tell him that your organization will not only help cancer patients but it will also provide for poor people; that it will also marry off orphans; that it will support widows; that it will provide homeless Jews with places to live; that it will provide funerals for those who unfortunately have nobody to bury them; that it will also teach people how to pray to G-d for everything they need; that it will do all that and more.

Just you two can accomplish all that. You figured out a way, and you’re going to dedicate your life to it.

And after he praises the altruism and idealism that he sees in you, then tell him:
Hachnosas orchim / bikur cholim / hachnasas kallah / levayas hames / gemilus chasadim are big mitzvos, but...

...talmud torah kneged kulam!

And as chazal say, one word of Torah is higher than an entire lifetime of doing these Mitzvos.

And then tell him that you have such an organization set up. You and this person.

You do the social part, and he/she will do the administrative part.

The Yezter Horah knows where to focus his energies. And so he would rather see thousands of social service organizations opening rather than one Torah student. Because although Mitzvos and Chesed are hated by the Satan, Talmud Torah is hated even more!

And so the Satan will try to generate within us a hashkofo that says: Any cause in the world it is OK to have someone support, except Torah learning.

The kids of Kollel couples do fine. While it's true that it's great to have a mother at home, it’s also great for the child to have a father who’s a talmid chacham. It happens all the time, and Kollel couples don’t have problems with their children because of it. It's a trade-off ; it's good when the kids see that their parents are idealistic and self-sacrificing for Torah.

If you have nobody to support you, there are still ways to learn, such as Kollelim that pay well plus the wife working. It can usually be done; the question is for how long.

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"Living off tzedakah" has nothing to do with kollel people. This is a common error. Tzedakah means that I give you money for no other reason that you need it - I do not demand anything in return for my donation. If I do demand something in return for my donation, it is not a donation but payment for services rendered. So if I pay you to entertain me, to be my personal trainer, to sing and dance for me, to be my baby sitter, you are not a baby sitter living off charity, but rather a paid worker. And so the statements about people living off tzedakah refer to people who are given money because they are poor, with no expectation from the donor that they learn, or work, or sleep, or do whatever they want. However, if someone gives money to you because he wants to merit the zechus of supporting Torah, and expects you to learn Torah because that is what he is supporting you to do, then that is not tzedakah at all but rather a simple business deal, the same as if I pay you to play baseball.

If I give you tzedakah money because you are poor, and you sit home all day watching television, then you may be an unproductive member of society but you are not a theif - I gave you tezdakah for food, and you are spending it on food. It was my choice to do that.

But if I give you money to learn in Kollel and you stay home all day watching TV, then you are a thief, because you took money specifically to learn and you did not keep your end of the bargain.

Thus, taking money for learning in Kollel is NOT living of tzedakah. Since I, the recipient, must provide something in return for payment received, that is a simple business deal.

If I do NOT have to provide anything in return for payment received, that is Tzedakah.

Since Kollel people must learn Torah in return for the payments they receive, they are NOT living at all off Tzedakah. Not any more than any person who renders services for payment received.

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Kollel people don’t live off Maaser money. They live off Kollel checks and support from their parents.

And for the record, the Halachah is that you are nowadays ALLOWED to live off Tzedakah to learn (see the Ramah and Shach in Hilchos Talmud Torah).
The maaser goes to the Yeshiva. The Yeshiva pays the Kollel. The Maaser is only going to them in return for and under the condition that they learn. This is not living off Tzedakah. This is a receipt of money in exchange for doing something, which is not the same as living off Tzadakah. This is providing a service that is considered valuable to those who provide the payment. It is no different than a singer getting money to sing or a baseball player getting money to play. The fact that you are allowed to use your maaser to support these fellows is no different than the fact that you are allowed to use your maaser to support Tzedakah organizations that pay fundraisers, administrators and other workers. Maaser is not the same as Tzedakah. Nobody would consider the head of Hatzolah as someone who "lives off tzedakah" even though he is paid through donations given to the organization. The same thing applies to someone who learns, and because he learns, is supported by whatever source, including maaser.

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Someone in Lakewood once expressed to Rav Schenuer Kotler ZTL about how if he stays in Kollel his children will be deprived of many things they would have otherwise. Rav Schenuer responded that providing them with a father who is a Talmid Chacham is more important than any of those things. And he should think hard before depriving them of that.

Yes, a woman's place is at home.

But also yes, the type of home you are supposed to have is a Torah home, a Torah-husband and Torah-father at its helm.

The question is, if you can only have one of those two positive elements of a home, which is more important?

The answer is having a husband and father who is a Talmid Chacham, or better yet, the biggest Talmid Chacham he can be, is the more important of the two.

So if you can have both, fine; if not, then we choose learning.

This is not considered making a "compromise" in religion, since either way you will have to give up something - the only question is what has to give.

Furthermore, there is a special concept surrounding the Mitzvah of learning that does not apply to any other Mitzvah, a concept that affects both Halachah and Hashkafa, that is, Torah learning in the world is so important that we prioritize Torah learning in a way that we would never do with other Mitzvos.

For instance, normally, if you have a choice between you doing a Mitzvah or you causing someone else to do a Mitzvah, we say chayecha kodem - your Mitzvah comes first. So if you can afford one pair of Tefillin, you use it yourself as opposed to giving it away to someone else. However, with regard to Torah learning, the Halachah is that if a father can afford one Rebbi, either for him or his son, if his son has potential to be a Talmid Chacham, he should give the Rebbi to his son, and forgo his own learning. Such an idea exists nowhere except regarding Torah learning.

Another for instance: Living off Tzedakah is frowned upon in the Torah. However, the Shach writes that nowadays, if the only way you will be able to learn is to live of the public, then it would be an aveirah not to do so, because how else will we have the maximum amount of Talmdei Chachamim in the world?

I would suspect that all this is a derivative of the Halachah of Eis Laasos - that with regard to the laws of Torah learning, in order to maintain Torah at its maximum strength, we jettison other Halachos. Eis Laasos applies only to the laws of Torah learning, not to anything else.

In any case, in the recipe of a Torah lifestyle, Torah learning is all the way on the top of the list. And although it is true that kol kevudah bas melech penimah, and a woman's place is with her children, an even greater merit than all that is when a woman is moser nefesh so that her home will be graced with as much of the light of Torah as possible.

Here's another one:

Kollel life isn’t just about learning vs. working. You’re talking about a father who is home in time to prepare for Shabbos; who is there on Chol Hamoed dressed in his Shabbos clothing, together with his children; you’re talking about a chodesh elul being a real elul - a preparation for yomim norayim. You’d be surprised how hard it is for working people to make aseres yemei teshuva into aseres yemei teshuva. The mincah minyan at work goes just as fast - everyone has to get back to their cubes; erev Yom Kippur - do you take a day off or not? Rushing home erev Shabbos in the winter on the train or in the car and barely making it in time for candle lighting, as opposed to the learning man who can properly prepare for the Coming of the Shabbos Queen.

You’re talking about someone who, instead of being exposed to the idle chit-chat of the men and women in his office - and "idle chit chat" is being very nice about it - is engrossed all day in kedushas HaTorah.

Yes, you may not be able to go shopping as much as you like, but there are other, this-worldly benefits that, to those who have them, more than make up for that.

It is a very, very, very different life.

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Yes, the Kesuba says the man is obligated to support his wife, as do Chazal. But that's a financial debt of husband to his wife, and so if she agrees to forgo it because Torah is more important to her, then he is no longer bound to it. So if the wife insists that the husband support her, he has to --- that all it says in the Kesuba, and in the rest of those places. But if the wife says, "I don't want your money -- keep it! Give me Torah instead!", then her merit is that much greater because of what she gave up.

And as far as the Rambam goes, first, the Rambam in hilchos shmita 13:13 writes that any individual has the right to choose nowadays to be like what shevet levi was in the olden days, i.e. devoted to Torah and not work. He says such a person is a Kiddush Hashem.

Second, the Rambam is talking about taking tzedakah from the tzibur rather than working. There is a major difference between that and Kollel (especially if the wife is working to support the husband, where no charity is involved).

Third, the Rambam states that a working person works 3 hours a day and learns 8 hours a day. That is the "normative" life of a baal habayis according to the Rambam. That's not one of the options in our life. So the Ramabm is irrelevent.

Fourth, we don't pasken shailos straight from the Rambam. We must see what the shulchan aruch and poskim accepted or rejected from the Rambam. And in Shulchan Aruch and posim it is clear that the Rambam that says a person should not take tzedakah in order to learn is NOT binding l'halachah. More, it states that even if the Rambam is right we cannot apply the Rambam because of ais laasos, meaning, whereas in the Rambams days it was not unlikely to become a talmid chacham and work at the same time, nowadays it is very much so, and therefore we must do whatever we can in order to produce talmidei chachamim, even if it means living off charity.

So as I said, for many reasons, the "sources" aren't sources at all.

And there's more: The advantages of Kollel aren't just learning vs. working -- see my post referenced above, that Kollel life is a much more Torah lifestyle than that of a baal habayis. The chick-chock quick mincha that the working person has to often go through to get back to his cubicle in time; the ability to focus on Elul as Elul, aseres yemei teshuva as aseres yemei teshuva; the dubious spirituality of the office environemnt (even most "frum" offices) versus the holy atmosphere of the Bais hamedrash --- there are so many plusses in learning all day over working, especially nowadays.

So the issue is not what’s permitted or prohibited -- you are permitted to work, no question. And so, nobody is "denigrating" or putting down in any way, working people. No way. But no matter how you cut it, learning is a much, much higher level.

The Kesuva is a financial debt. Like any financial debt, the creditor can say “keep it.” So the wife can say “Keep your money. Even though I can bring you to court to demand support, Torah learning is more important to me than the money, so you sit and learn.”

The debt is always officially there, but she has no obligation to ever collect it, if she doesn’t want to. She may feel there are more valuable things her husband can bring home than money, although if she wants to demand money instead of learning, he has to give it to her.

And it doesn’t say he has to “earn a living”. It says he has to provide for her. Meaning, if his parents or hers, for instance, supply him with provisions that he passes on to her, he has fulfilled his obligation. It doesn’t say HOW he must obtain the provisions. Merely that he has to make sure she’s taken care of.

The statement “b’zayas apecha tocah lechem” “By the sweat of your brow shall you eat bread” was a curse, not an obligation or an ethical instruction. And it is said regarding the way mankind lives in general, not directed at each individual. Nobody is bound to be part of the curse if he is fortunate enough to avoid it. If you win the lottery you have no obligation not to retire. And if you have a way to exist in Kollel, you have no obligation to go to work.

Besides, someone learning in Kollel is fulfilling the curse anyway, since he has to learn in Kollel in order to receive whatever support he is getting. Why is he worse than a baseball player who people are willing to pay money to see him play? This man has people willing to pay money to see him learn. As long as you have to DO something rather than just sit in Gan Eden like Adam did, you are fulfilling the curse.

And the truth is that someone who learns is providing the world with much more than someone who is merely a Certified Public Accountant. Someone who recognizes the value of Torah in the world and is fortunate enough to find a Kollel guy to invest his money in, reaps much more profit than someone who invests his money in the stock market.

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There are not enough Rebbi jobs for every Kollel guy to have one; plus, there are advantages of learning over being a Rebbi. Rav Aharon Kotler ZT"L, in his hesped on the Chazon Ish, said that the Chazon Ish is greater than him (Rav Aharon) because he (Rav Aharon) runs a Yeshiva and deals with Talmidim whereas the Chazon Ish spends all his time learning. Supporting Kollel people is not a burden - it is a privilege. Each person who learns all day brings into the world infinite holiness and influence from Above, and for that alone you should recognize the value of supporting them.

The Kollel guy gives more to those who support him than the supporters give to him. They only give to him in this world, but he gives to them forever.

The Kesuba does not obligate the man to go to work and support his wife if his wife agrees to support him. A woman may be moshel part or all of the Kesuva.

Some woman may not want to work to support Kollel guys - and they don't have to. Others may agree only to support him for a certain amount of time. But many are, thank G-d, righteous enough to recognize the great reward for supporting a Kollel guy.

If a woman would be able to go to work and come home with millions of dollars nobody would complain. But the woman who supports her husband in Kollel comes home with much more.

To portray Kollel wives as slaves and working like dogs is a gross exaggeration and misrepresentation of their lifestyle.

Again, the Halachah states clearly that learning all day is praiseworthy and meritorious. To say differently is to argue against the Torah, not to mention simple logic, since the zechus of learning all day is worth supporting.

The greatest cause of sholom bayis problems among young, functional Kollel couples is the disconnect between the husband's and wife's ideas of what kollel life is all about. I have seen this over and over, and over and over and over. Let's understand a few things:

The Reasons for Learning in Kolllel

The overwhelmingly most important advantage of learning in Kollel is that you are learning. Simple as that. Torah learning is the highest, greatest, most glorious form of avodas Hashem, which will get for you the greatest share in Olam Habah possible, much much more and much much greater than any other thing you can do for Hashem, including any other type of Mitzvos. Learning Torah brings by far the greatest nachahs to Hashem, the greatest benefits to Klall yisroel, and the greatest benefits to those who do the learning, more than anything else you can possibly do.

Hands down, no contest.

That's why we learn.

As an example: A man once came to the Chazon Ish asking him advice. He got two job offers, and he wants to know which to take. The first is Kashrus administrator of the rabbanut, a position in which he is confident that he would be able to change the kashrus standards in all of eretz yisroel, causing the public to eat only kosher food. If he does not take this job, they will hire someone who does not have his standards and the public who rely on this hecsher will not eat kosher (note: I do not know what the issues with the hechsher were, or how severe). His other choice is to be a Rebbi in a yeshiva. If he does not take that job, the Yeshiva will hire a different ben torah, on the same level as him, so it’s not as if the kids are going to be less frum.

Which job should he take, he asked.

The Chazon Ish asked him, "Do you think, if you take the job as a Rebbi, that you could perhaps convince 2 of your students to learn during a Bain Hazemanim?"

"Yes," he said. "I think I can do that."

"Then you should know," said the Chazon Ish, "that two kids learning Torah bain hazemanim as if it were the zman, is much more valuable to Hashem than making the entire eretz yisroel eat kosher!"

This is the kind of material that boys are taught in yeshiva. This is the main motivation for learning in Kollel.

The situation these days in Eretz Yisroel is terrible. We need to help our brothers there. What can we do, spiritually, I am talking about now, to help?

Well, the Chazon Ish said that learning one single Tosfos has the power to nullify many evil decrees on Klall Yisroel"

It can take any where from a few minutes to much longer to learn a Tosfos. One single Tosfos -- perhaps a few minutes of Torah learning - can nullify many Gezeiros against Klall Yisroel.

We say it every day; Talmud Torah Kneged Kulam. This means, say Chazal, that learning one word of Torah - one! word! - imparts more holiness than a lifetime of doing Mitzvos!

The Vilna Gaon comments: So when someone learns just one page of Gemora, he covers hundreds of words, each of which gives him more Kedusha than a lifetime of doing Mitzvos.

In Yeshiva, they teach this, that Torah learning - as opposed to any other form of Avodas Hashem - is by far, by very, very far, the highest and greatest act of Avodah that a person can be involved in, and through it, one merits by far, by very very far, the greatest measure of Olam Habah; and through it, one releases, by far, by very very far, the very greatest measure of Hashem's influence and Goodness into this world.

Nothing compares. Nothing comes close. Not Kiruv, not Tzedakah, not Hatzalah, nothing.

Please note, that all those other endeavors - the Mitzvah ones - are glorious and wonderful forms of Avodas Hashem. But Torah learning is a billion times greater.

All this applies to the act of learning, even if it is done by someone who is not a Talmid Chacham.

But the Talmid Chacham, even if he does not teach, even if he does not preach, is, more than anything else, the one most valuable thing to Hashem in this world. And no wonder. If one world of Torah learning can bring more kedusha into this world than a lifetime of anything else, then the very existence of the Talmid Chacham is a conduit of holiness and Hashem's Influence into this world. The very presence of the Talmid Chacham benefits our world in ways that nothing else can.

As Rav Hutner ZTL used to point out - every utensil in the Bais HaMikdash had some kind of avodah done with it. Except the Aron. The Aron did nothing but exist. The Aron represents the talmid chacham, the container of the Torah. It does not need to do any act. Its very presence is its success.

(Of course, this does not mean that a Talmid Chacham does not have to fulfill the Mitzvos. Doing Mitzvos is part of being a Talmid Chacham, because if someone does not Do what he learns, then obviously his learning is not meant seriously, and is not real learning.)

But a Talmid Chacham does not have to be "employed." The Vilna Gaon had no "job." he was not the local rabbi, Rosh Yeshiva, or anything. He was like the Aron Kodesh. In our days, the Chazon Ish, the Steipler, and yibd"l Rav Chaim Kanievsky had/have no "jobs". Each is an Aron HaKodesh.

Rav Aharon Kotler ZTL said in his hesped of the Chazon Ish, that the reason the Chazon Ish was bigger than him, was because the Chazon Ish had no yeshiva to run; he had nothing in his life except Torah.

The goal of becoming a Talmid Chacham is so, so, so desirable, that everyone is encouraged to pursue it. If you can't, or won't, for whatever reason, nobody is judging you. But no question -- if our goal in this world is to bring Nachas Ruach to Hashem / to accumulate merits for Olam Habah / to sanctify the world / etc etc -- becoming a Talmid Chacham is by far the best way to go.

But even if you are not going to be a Talmid Chacham, being the closest you can become, is also the most desirable and glorious and highest goal for you. Learning itself is the greatest act of Avodas Hashem that can be performed in the world.

One more important point: Contrary to the belief of many, it is impossible to predict who will become a Talmid Chacham. As the Chazon Ish said, "Every student is a possible godol hador". The Roshei Yeshiva of today were not all the ones who people thought would become the Roshei Yeshiva of today. And vice versa. Talent and intellect help, to be sure, but effort and siyata dishmaya are more important to success as a Torah scholar. Becoming a "godol" is not just for the brightest. In fact, often it is not they who attain that goal. Average students, and it has happened that also below average students, have become great Gedolim and surpassed their more talented peers.

Not everybody can become the greatest Talmid Chacham in the world. But everybody can become as close to the greatest Talmid chacham in the world that he can. Those Bnei Torah, the ones who pour their heart and soul and life into learning Hashem's Torah, merit, every single one of them, the greatest share in Olam Habah possible.

That is the main reason people learn in Kollel. Because Talmud Torah Kneged Kulam.

There are tons more good reasons --- like the effect it has on your home, on your Mitzvah performance, on your personality, on your children --- all of which are excellent reasons. But the main reason is, that our goal in this world is to go higher and higher. And there is no better way to go higher than to learn.

Nothing even close.

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Nobody said you can't learn and work - there's nothing wrong with it. But 8 hours a day more for learning is of course that much better.

"Talmud Torah kneged kulam" - Learning Torah is the greatest Mitzvah of all.

Chazal often mention that Toroso Umnoso is the ideal, that we do nothing all day but learn. Nowadays poskim say that we cannot reach that level, but clearly the closer the better. Also, Shulchan Aruch Hilchos Toalmud Torah, in the Shach ad loc, says that nowadays learning all day is the ideal, and that if someone has the ability to do it, he should.

Why did the Rambam and other Gedolim work, then?

This question is asked, and answered:

Because the Rambam filled himself with Torah, became the Rambam, and then "sprinkled" a bit of philosophy into his curriculum. See Rashba Teshuvos I:414, Chosid Yaavetz in Ohr HaChaim 10, the Rambam himself is quoted indicating this. Also Shach, laws of Talmud Torah. This is stated regarding why the Rambam learned philosophy.

The Shach adds that regarding learning all day in general, nowadays we cannot reach our potential in learning the way the Rambam etc. did, since we are not on that level. Therefore, we should learn all day if we can.

Furthermore, the Rambam writes that a "working person" is someone who learns 8 hours a day and works 3. Not the Rambam nor any of the others frequently mentioned worked 9 to 5, or close to it.

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Talmud Torah K'neged Kulam means always. There is no such thing as a "proper time" for learning, or, as your statement would necessitate, an "improper time". The Gemora says that only during a time when "it is not day or night" is the time for learning "not proper."

It's not a question of right or wrong. The Halachah, as explained by the Ohr Sameach in Hilchos Talmud Torah, is that everyone has to learn an amount according to his level. The more a person understands the value of learning, the more time he must spend on it.

But it's not a question of Halachah, not l'chatchilah not b'dieved. It's simply this: If I showed you a pile of coins and gave you 1 hour to collect as much as you can, you would spend as much time gathering the gold as you could.

Torah is the greatest Mitzvah - one word of Torah, Chazal say, is more holy than an entire lifetime of doing Mitzvos.

And we have one lifetime to gather our gold. Someone who appreciates that doesn't care if he is halachicly obligated of not. Everyone agrees that learning Torah is gold. Even if you are not halachicly obligated to run after it.

Or look at it this way: You can be "dedicated" to your wife by treating her nicely and buying her a present on her birthday.

But what about someone who buys her roses every single day? And spends every minute he can trying to make her happy.

Ah! What a relationship that would theoretically be.

You can be "dedicated" to learning by allocating an hour here and there to it. And you may not break any laws. You're not a neglectful husband.

But then there are those who are interested in more than that . . .

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Rav Schwab says "ailu v'ailu divrei elokim chayim" - that there are those who hold that learning all day is best for the most amount of people, and others - like where he comes from - that Torah Im Derech Eretz is the ideal. He says both are legitimate.

However, elsewhere he questions what Rav Shimshon Raphael Hirsch would say is the best approach today. He points out that when Rav SRH supported TIDE it was in a time when the rest of the world was learning all day. In a world with a powerful, robust and healthy Torah-only majority, Rav SRH felt comfortable creating a TIDE community as well, to deal with needs that the Torah Only camp could not. But where the Torah-Only world itself needs to be strengthened, would Rav Hirsch stress TIDE?

He doesn't answer that question.

But Rav Hirsch wasn't talking about working vs. learning. He was talking about whether it is useful to have secular knowledge, and if so, how much, and why. Working vs. learning is a totally different issue, though related.

And there are clear statements in the Chazal, Rambam and Shulchan Aruch that nobody disagrees with, including Rav Hirsch or Rav Schwab, that learning all day is superior to working.

Even Mordechai, who had to close his Gemora to save Klall Yisroel during the Purim episode, the Gemora says went down in his level because he was busy saving Klall Yisroel instead of learning!!!

This does not mean that one should learn when Klall Yisroel is in danger. But rather, it would have been a big Zechus for Mordechai if Hashem would have chosen a different way to foil Haman's plan, one that did not involve him having to close his Gemora for a while. But because of some imperfection in Mordechai, Hashem did not allow him to be Zocheh to learning all day as he wanted, but rather "forced" Mordechai to go out and save the world. It could have been a lot worse - Hashem could have forced Mordechai to close the Gemora and NOT save the world. But it could have been better. Mordechai could have been able to learn peacefully and not been recruited to save the world.

So if even Mordechai went down in madreigah because of having to learn less temporarily in order to save all of Klall Yisroel, imagine how much more learning all day is worth as opposed to spending your entire life selling cell phones, or practicing law...

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On The Reasons for Learning Full Time
Talmud Torah K'neged Kulam means always. There is no such thing as a "proper time" for learning, or, as your statement would necessitate, an "improper time". The Gemora says that only during a time when "it is not day or night" is the time for learning "not proper." It's not a question of right or wrong. The Halachah, as explained by the Ohr Sameach in Hilchos Talmud Torah, is that everyone has to learn an amount according to his level. The more a person understands the value of learning, the more time he must spend on it.

But it's not a question of Halachah, not l'chatchilah not b'dieved. It's simply this: If I showed you a pile of coins and gave you 1 hour to collect as much as you can, you would spend as much time gathering the gold as you could.

Torah is the greatest Mitzvah - one word of Torah, Chazal say, is more holy than an entire lifetime of doing Mitzvos.

And we have one lifetime to gather our gold. Someone who appreciates that doesn't care if he is halachicly obligated of not. Everyone agrees that learning Torah is gold. Even if you are not halachicly obligated to run after it.

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What To Expect of Your (Kollel) Husband


Please note: You are not going to marry Reb Chaim Shmuelevitz.

You are going to marry a guy. He may be a Kollel guy, but a guy nonetheless. 22, 23 years old guys are not finished products. He will not talk, walk, think, or behave like Reb Chaim Shmuelevitz.

He may come late to shachris. That is not a sign that he is "not cut out for Kollel", nor is it a sign that he is a "faker". Your Kollel husband may be a struggling human being just like you or anybody else. The Shiva yipol tzdik v'kam principal will apply to him too. Your job is to give this raw diamond the encouragement, support, and help him grow into the great person that he can be.

You are not his Mashgiach. You are his helper. There is no third role. It's either "ezer" - a helper, or "kenegdo" - an opponent. You are one or the other.

Guys need wives to help them grow, to get them through their struggles, to pick them up when they fall, to encourage them and believe in them. Not to be their mothers or mashgichim or supervisors.

If every yeshiva guy that came late to davening, or shmoozed with his chavrusa now and then in the middle of seder, or wasn't the biggest masmid in the world was made to leave Yeshiva, you would have many of today's Roshei Yeshiva, Rabbanim, Rebbeim, and Talmidei Chachamim, doing computers or something.

I grew up with many of these people, and trust me on this. You cannot predict the final outcome of a person based on a minute-to-minute assessment of how precise he is about being where he’s supposed to be on time or the length of time he spends in Yeshiva without going to the coffee room.

There are other yardsticks, which are much more meaningful when judging the odds of a young man becoming great. These go more in the direction of the intensity of his thirst for learning, his desire to become great, his valuing of greatness and his commitment to pursue it. His values and dreams and desires are, at that point in his life, more telling than his attendance records.

Girls tend to assess their husbands in terms of discipline; the husbands assess themselves based on their growth, which may or may not be proportionate to their discipline.

And the husbands were taught all their life to assess themselves like that, because that is how their Rebbeim assessed them - in terms of potential and commitment and desire.

The goal of a Kolell man is to grow and become the biggest Talmid Chacham he can. Often, husbands and wives are not on the same page regarding what is considered vital to that endeavor, at least while someone is in his growing stages.

Girls often think that (a) their husbands are already complete products when they are just married and (b) they assess their husband's value as a Ben Torah by their discipline, which is just one small ingredient in the recipe.

The first thing to know is, you are not marrying Reb Chaim Shmuelevitz.

The second thing is, even Rebitzen Shmuelevitz didn't marry Reb Chaim Shmuelevitz. It takes many many years to become R. Chaim Shmuelevitz. He struggled too. We all do.

Rav Hutner's letter describes how it is sad that we don’t realize how much our Gedolim struggled to become Gedolim, and in how many battles the Yetzer Horah defeated the Chofetz Chaim, for instance, before he became the Chofetz Chaim, also applies to young men in Kollel.

Or, more accurately, young guys in Kollel.

One of the reasons for this disconnect between the girls' ideas of what Bnei Torah should be versus the Bnei Torahs' ideas, is that girls go to school where they have role models, and they tend to think that the boys' role models are kind of male versions of their own. So for instance, they figure they know of a big rebitzen, and they figure a Rosh yeshiva is a male version of their rebitzens.

But it's not so. The Rebitzen, no matter how old and wise and talented she is, received her formal Judaic training in high school and a year or 2 of seminary. Full time education for women does not go beyond that. And that is altogether not a problem - women have the responsibility of raising a family and learning is not their full time job. Fine. But we must understand that creating a role model for Yeshiva guys -- a Rosh Yeshiva -- takes years and years and years of hard work, in Yeshiva, going to Shiurim, learning b'chavrusa, full time, and more.

So when a girl is married to a guy with a few years Bais Medrash experience under his belt, she sometimes thinks that he's already supposed to be a big role model, like her rebitzens. But it doesn’t work that way. The trajectory that guys follow to greatness is so different than that of girls. And if you want to be able to understand where your guy is coming from, you need to know his path to growth.

Guys use completely different benchmarks of success and growth than girls do. And if you’re using a girls standards on a guy, it’s like measuring a liquid in inches or distance by the pound.

I have sadly seen so many guys being labeled as "fakers" or "not cut out for learning" by their wives simply because they did not know how to assess what it takes to be "cut out for learning".

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Those who are not really learning are a small minority. Un-noticeable and insignificant when compared to those that are for real. It is a plain blood libel against Kollel guys to say "how many do you know" that are for real.

It is true that Kollel has become the "in" thing, but so has religion. Does that mean you shouldn’t be religious?

They’re doing good things, the Kollel people. They deserve praise, not suspicious accusations.

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As far as luxuries, there are those opinions that it is proper even to live quite comfortably while learning. I assume one reason would be because it takes the stress off of it, and those doing such delicate and important work don’t need stress or discomfort getting in the way, but another reason brought down in the Kovod of the Torah - like a Kohen Gadol, who lived like that.

The Gemora says that women merit the great reward for Torah by assisting their husbands and children in their learning. Women themselves are exempt from Torah learning. The fact that they make birchas hatorah has several explanations in the poskim. The most famous is that of the Bais Halevi, which actually precedes him greatly - it is in the smag - that Birchas hatorah has nothing to do with the obligation to learn Torah, but rather it is a brachah on the act of learning itself, analogous to the brachah on an apple, lets say. Even if it is not a mitzvah to eat an apple, you still make the brachah. As far as the text of the brachah mentioning it being a mitzvah and obligation, that is referring to all of klall yisroel in general, not the specific person making the blessing.

The reason we learn is not just to perform - learning has a value in its own right. The issue of lilmod al menas laasos is that the fulfillment of your learning by practicing what you preach validates the earning and means it is real. If someone learns and does not do mitzvos, that means his learning is bogus.

But in the end of the day, it is the learning that is more valuable. The mitzvos are a condition to the validity of the learning.

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The only thing "not cut out for learning" means is, unwilling to make the sacrifice. Although some people are unable to learn all day due to parnasa reasons, or other reasons, an intrinsic nature or intellect that is not suited to learning - which is what "not cut out for learning" means - does not exist.

Even if someone is not very bright, he can still accomplish a lot in learning. Not everyone has to be Rav Chaim Ozer. All you have to do is your best.


NOTE: The fact that in the olden days people like the Rambam were able to become great Gedolim and still maintain regular employment has already been discussed in the poskim as an unrealistic expectation for us nowadays. Today, we can’t do both - halvai we should be able to make gedolim by learning all day, never mind part time.

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Even though it is definitely important to utilize your time properly, it is also true that the more you learn the more Mitzvah you get - each and every additional word of Torah you learn makes a substantial change in your Neshoma's madreigah - and that there is a big difference between learning Torah, and becoming a Godol BaTorah or a Talmid Chacham, which you cannot do by learning daf yomi only.

We cannot compare ourselves to the shevatim. Them going to work and us going to work are two different things. Each of the shevatim were great Neviim, able to resurrect the dead in an instant. They learned more torah in their minds during every moment that their arms and legs were working, than a great Torah scholar can today, during his entire lifetime in the Bais HaMedrash.

The Belzer Rebbe ZT"L explained that when the Gemorah describes the merit of earning a living it uses the phrase "haneheneh m'yegias kapoh" - someone who makes a living form the work of "his hands". Meaning, said the Sar Sholom of Belz ZT"L, while his hands are working, he has his mind free for learning.

For us to take direction, we must look into the Halachah, which was written for us, rather than apply to us principles that applied to great prophets. And in the Halacha - Shulchan Aruch Hilchos Talmud Torah, and Shach ad loc - it is clear that it is a great Mitzvah to learn all day even if you have to be supported by the community.

The reason is because even though you are able to learn some Torah and work also, to become a Godol BaTorah or a Talmid Chacham - in other words, to reach your potential in learning, you must learn more than Daf Yomi.

The Rambam writes that each and every Jew who wants to join the "tribe of Levi" today - or adapt their lifestyle at least - and learn all day and do nothing else, gets a tremendous merit.

It's a simple idea. Look at it this way:

Let's imagine Klall Yisroel was needed doctors. Without the doctors, people would die. But the problem is, medical school is unaffordable and time consuming, which makes producing doctors prohibitive. Also, being a doctor does not bring in any money (in our imaginary world). So Klall Yisroel sets up people who will donate money to support people going through medical school and while they act as doctors, so that our sick can be cured.

Now imagine someone objecting to this system. "Hey!" they will say. "Let these doctors go out and make a living! All the shevatim made a living! Why should the community support these people? Why should they live off Tzadakah?"

Of course, you would say such protesters are nuts. These people are (1) vital to our community, and (2) earning their pay as much as anyone else due to their service that they provide, and (3) it should be an honor to support the existence of such people.

Well, the existence of Gedolei Torah are more vital to our people than doctors and it should be the responsibility of every Jew to provide the means for them to exist. And whereas a certain amount of doctors are sufficient, the more Gedolei Torah we have, the better it is for Klall Yisroel.

So, as the Rambam says, anyone can volunteer for the privilege of being a savior of Klall Yisroel.

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The Jewish community does not seem ignorant and foolish even to the most secular gentile, even in the most Chassidic, non-English speaking circles. One's lack of interest or need in speaking English does not reflect on one's intelligence, and the Goyim understand that as well. It is merely the Yezter Horah that creates a feeling of embarrassment or inferiority when your fellow Jews are not as "secular" as you are.

Secondly, Yeshiva students are constantly attaining higher scores on standard secular studies tests than public school students, on the average. That includes PSAT, SAT, and, in New York, Regents. Yeshiva students go on to become doctors, lawyers, and yes, writers, and the colleges are happy when a Yeshiva student applies, because in general, they are quality students.

There is nothing lacking in our Yeshivas' education.

In Egypt, the Jews were redeemed because they did not speak the language of the land. There is no Mitzvah to speak English if someone does not want to. And there is certainly no Mitzvah to speak the Queen's English.

We need to focus our energies more on Torah and Mitzvos, not on stuff that, after 120 years, will make no difference anyway.

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