Zionism - Bringing Mashiach?
The Brachah starts off "Tkah b'shofar gadol" -- who do you think is blowing that Shofar? We're talking about Moshiach performing the Kibutz Golius that the Brachah is talking about. We do NOT pray for Moshiach in the subsequent Brachos - nowhere does it imply that Kibutz Golius is before Moshiach (the Brachah of Es Tzemach Dovid is for the establishemnt of the Kingdom of Dovid, which is what Moshiach will do after he does Kibutz Gilus, destroys the apikorsim, etc, as per the seder habrachos).
Kibutz golius will NOT be from golus to Eretz Yisroel directly, as the Ravaad says in Eduyos. First, he says, we will be gathered into the desert and travel there for 40 years, the same way we did during our first Geulah. Then, afterwards, we will be taken into EY.
Therefore, the Satmar Rav points out, the Brachah of Tkah Bshofar is going on the Kibutz Golius into the desert, which will happen before the building of Yerushalayim and the Judgement of the Apikorsim. The fact that it says in the brachah "vkabtzenu yachahd ... l'artzeinu" merely means that the ultimate purpose of the Kibutz Goluyus will be to go into EY, but the Brachah itself - the peshichah and chasimah - is not referring to the Kibutz Golyus into EY at all, but rather the preparatory one, which will happen at the beginning of Moshiach's activities. He points out that according to many poskim, including the Tur, Ari, and many nusach ashkenaz cited in Likutei Maharich, they do not even include the world "l'artzeinu" in the text of the brachah at all!
But in any case, the seder habrachos does not say that this Kibutz Golius - wherever it is referring to - happens before the appearance of Moshiach. On the contrary, it happens after the blowing of the Great Shofar, but before the Establishment of the Kingdom or the Building of Jerusalem.
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The Geulah will be here when Moshiach comes. Gog and Magog will take place during Golus, and, in terms of the great war, after Moshiach has come.
The opposition to "human beings" being the bringers of the Geulah only applies to the third and final Geulah -- not to that of Koresh. The reason is, because any Geulah done via a human cannot be permanent, as Chazal say even with regard to Moshe and Aaron - when they made a Geulah it was not complete. The next Geulah will be; and that can only be done through G-d.
Koresh was more than happy to have this "Geulah" happen not on his terms, but according to G-d's terms. He was merely doing whatever the prophecy and prophets said he should. The Zionists had no interest in G-d's redemption - they were interested in creating a State unrelated to, and even opposed to, G-d, and His Torah and His sages. There is no comparison between a King whose actions were done on behalf of G-d versus heretics whose actions were done on behalf of atheistic nationalism, and worse, with the specific intention of stripping G-d and spirituality from the definition of "Jewishness."
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It says nowhere that the Geulah begins by Jews becoming politically powerful, and when you are talking about such power in Eretz Yisroel, you are making a bad error in logic:
If the Oaths tell us that we are not allowed to have sovereign power over Eretz Yisroel, then you cannot say that if the Jews attain such power it is a sign that the Oath is null. For if so, it is impossible to violate the Oath, as violating it would mean aschalta d'geulah. Makes no sense. Even if there were such a thing as the Jews banding together politically, it would have to be specifically OUTSIDE of Eretz Yisroel.
Secondly, saying that the Jews must be "united militarily" before Gog and Magog because otherwise how can they fight them, is absurd. First, the war of Gog and Magog will take place after the appearance of Moshiach, who will lead us into battle. Second, who in the world decided that the Jews will be prepared for this war? (Was Israel prepared for the Yom Kippur war?) The war could unfold in so many ways --- where did you get this narrow picture from? The whole idea has no source whatsoever.
And even giving it credence - that does not exist in reality - who in the world says that such a military buildup constitutes the beginning of the geulah? Just because something is necessary for the war of Gog and Magog does not mean that the Geulah is here when that happens???
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The idea that a Geulah that is performed through human beings - even Moshe and Aharon - is necessarily temporary is in the Medrash Rabbah, and quoted by the Lubavitcher Rebbe Rashab regarding the Zionists. The fact that Moshe could have been Moshiach is not a problem, since had that been the case, then Hashem would have intervened and performed the Geulah the way He will iy"h when the real Geulah arrives.
As far as Koresh goes, there is no comparison between him and the Zionists. The idea is not that the Zionists were not "frum enough" but rather, they were enemies of Hashem, rehayim, kofrim, evil-doers, and more, their intention in creating the State of Israel was a totally unholy one: namely, "nihiyeh kechol hagoyim", and even to eliminate religion altogether.
It is therefore unthinkable that the anti-G-d actions of these anti-G-d people represent the ultimate revelation of G-d's Honor, the redemption itself. Forget it. It's absurd.
Koresh, on the other hand, was a righteous king. "Koresh was a kosher king, therefore, he is counted as if he were one of the Malchei Yisroel" (Rosh Hashanah 3b). Koresh, unlike the Zionists, made a decree that everyone should fear Hashem ("the G-d of Daniel").
Koresh was indeed acting in accordance with the express wishes of Hashem. "So said Koresh, King of Persia: 'Hashem ... has commanded me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, in the Land of Yehuda." (Ezra 1:2)
(I.e. Hashem commanded me through Yehsayah the prophet to build the Santuary in Jerusalem" - Rashi).
And despite all of this, only 1500 Jews heeded Koresh's call to return to Erezt Yisroel. The reason, says the Ramban in Maamar HaGeulah (ch. 1), is that only the Jews of Bavel had a prophecy that the Golus was over. The rest of the Jews refused to emigrate to Erezt Yisroel en masse because since they did not have a prophecy that the Geulah has ended for them, doing so would have violated the Oaths!
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When Moshiach comes, we won't have to worry about the Arabs. First of all, when Moshiach comes, the entire world will be so scared of him and so impressed by him that even the goyim will follow him to seek his advice. The goyim will get together to try to plot strategy of how to prevent themselves from being overtaken by him, but to no avail. His strength and the hand of G-d redeeming us will vanquish them. When the Geulah comes, the goyim will not be a problem. Now, they are. And the Zionists just made that problem a lot worse, Hashem yishmereinu.
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From the journal Hapardes (Year 11, Issue 7):
“Rabbi Wasserman, Rabbi Kotler, Rabbi Rottenberg from Antwerp, and Rabbis from Czechoslovakia and Hungary were unanimous in rejecting any proposal for a “Jewish State” on either side of the Jordan River, even if it were established as a religious state because such a regime would be a form of heresy in our faith in the belief in the coming of the Messiah, and especially since this little “Jewish” state would be built on heresy and desecration of the Name of G-d."
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Rav Shach: “Klall Yisroel is still in Golus until Moshiach comes, even if we are in Eretz Yisroel. This is not Geulah nor Atchaltah D’Geulah. [And since it is still Golus therefore] we are commanded not to defy the nations of the world.” (Letters 1:3)
We must try to appease our enemies; the Chilonim cannot be trusted to make proper decisions for the country
“We are one sheep against 70 wolves, this is not a figure of speech but meant literally and it will remain so until Moshiach comes. Because if this, Jews always lived alone, as a nation, and as individuals, and all of us knew what we face, and that we always needed to act according to the advice of Yaakov Avinu with prayer [to Hashem] and giving gifts (i.e. appeasement) to the nations. As for the third option of Yaakov, “war”, which Rashi says means, “so that the remaining camp will survive”, that is, to run away (See also Ramban) – that is only when the situation arises that someone is coming to kill you, you should kill them, like Yaakov who was summoned by Esav (and prepared for the possibility of Esav trying to kill him). But not everybody can use this rule, for the Chilonim and the non-religious, since they do not care about their own life, they surely do not care about the lives of others (Pesachim 49b). For their outlook is that the Jewish Nation is like other nations, and the truth is, to their lifestyle, there is nothing separating them and the other nations. And so we cannot rely on them to consider every option, and not to do something that constitutes “defying the other nations” (Hisgarus B’Umos)” (Letters 1:4)
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There is no ingathering happening now. While it is true that many people are making Aliyah, that does not constitute "ingathering of exiles", besides which many are making Yeridah as well, becoming car service drivers and furniture movers in Chutz Laaretz.
Kibutz Goliyos wont happen anyway, until after Mohsiach comes, as you say in Shemonah Esrei - "yitakah beshoraf gadol lechariusainu, v'sa nes lekabetz" etc. Who do you think is going to blow that shofar?
And, as the Ravvad mentions, Kibutz Goliyus will not happen by peopel going straight into EY. First we will have to wander in the desert again for 40 years with Moshiach, the way we did the first time, and only afterwards will we reach or ultimate goal of going into EY.
And all that happens after Moshiach comes.
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Rav Elchonon Wasserman writes, tongue in cheek of course, that the only way the State is going to hasten the redemption is according to the GRA who writes that any suffering the Jews have in Golus counts as "credit" against time in Golus - and since the State of Israel is likely to be the greatest suffering the Jews ever had in their 2,000 years of exile, we should get a lot of time in golus reduced because of it.
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The world does not have to be against Jews for Moshiach to come. The only thing that has to happen is that Klall Yisroel will do Teshuva.
And even if it were so, Jewish people getting killed is not something we should be happy about even if it causes Moshiach to come. Moshiach's coming is G-d's job. Ours is to fulfill the Torah, and the Torah wants us to make sure Jews live, and not to be so cruel as to be happy when one dies - even if that happiness is because it is a "sign" that Moshiach is coming. And that is true even if Jews are in danger of being killed.
The Brisker Rav ZTL pointed this out by the Halachah that Moshiach cannot come on Shabbos, due to the Techum. This shows, he said, that even if the Geulah could be brought, and all the problems of Klall Yisroel would end, fulfilling the Torah - even one Halachah - is much more important.
The Rebbe Reb Bunim of Prshyscha ZTL once said, similarly, that he could bring Moshiach, but he will not. The reason is, because when Moshiach will come, there will be a welcoming celebration, and all the Tzadikim will be sitting on the dais, and right next to Moshiach will be the Godol Hador, the Yid Hakodosh of Prshyscha.
Moshiach will ask the Yid, "How did you finally do it? How did you bring me?"
"And the Yid will have to point all the way in the back of the room, where I will be standing," the Rebbe Reb Bunim said, and he will have to say 'See that man Bunim? he brought you'. "
And in that moment, the Yid Hakodosh will be embarrassed that he's such a big Tzadik, and it took me, a simple Jew, to bring Moshiach.
To save the Yid HaKodosh that embarrassment, it is worth not to bring Moshiach.
Rav Schenur Kotler ZTL used to say over that story, and add that it has a source in Chumash. When Hashem told Moshe to bring the Jews out of Egypt, he said he doesn’t want to do it because Aharon will feel bad that he wasn't the Go'el.
Moshiach is a great thing, but not allowing pain to another Jew is even greater.
Nothing is greater than Torah.
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Kibutz golius will NOT be from golus to Eretz Yisroel directly, as the Ravaad says in Eduyos. First, he says, we will be gathered into the desert and travel there for 40 years, the same way we did during our first Geulah. Then, afterwards, we will be taken into EY.
Therefore, the Satmar Rav points out, the Brachah of Tkah Bshofar is going on the Kibutz Golius into the desert, which will happen before the building of Yerushalayim and the Judgement of the Apikorsim. The fact that it says in the brachah "vkabtzenu yachahd ... l'artzeinu" merely means that the ultimate purpose of the Kibutz Goluyus will be to go into EY, but the Brachah itself - the peshichah and chasimah - is not referring to the Kibutz Golyus into EY at all, but rather the preparatory one, which will happen at the beginning of Moshiach's activities. He points out that according to many poskim, including the Tur, Ari, and many nusach ashkenaz cited in Likutei Maharich, they do not even include the world "l'artzeinu" in the text of the brachah at all!
But in any case, the seder habrachos does not say that this Kibutz Golius - wherever it is referring to - happens before the appearance of Moshiach. On the contrary, it happens after the blowing of the Great Shofar, but before the Establishment of the Kingdom or the Building of Jerusalem.
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The Geulah will be here when Moshiach comes. Gog and Magog will take place during Golus, and, in terms of the great war, after Moshiach has come.
The opposition to "human beings" being the bringers of the Geulah only applies to the third and final Geulah -- not to that of Koresh. The reason is, because any Geulah done via a human cannot be permanent, as Chazal say even with regard to Moshe and Aaron - when they made a Geulah it was not complete. The next Geulah will be; and that can only be done through G-d.
Koresh was more than happy to have this "Geulah" happen not on his terms, but according to G-d's terms. He was merely doing whatever the prophecy and prophets said he should. The Zionists had no interest in G-d's redemption - they were interested in creating a State unrelated to, and even opposed to, G-d, and His Torah and His sages. There is no comparison between a King whose actions were done on behalf of G-d versus heretics whose actions were done on behalf of atheistic nationalism, and worse, with the specific intention of stripping G-d and spirituality from the definition of "Jewishness."
---
It says nowhere that the Geulah begins by Jews becoming politically powerful, and when you are talking about such power in Eretz Yisroel, you are making a bad error in logic:
If the Oaths tell us that we are not allowed to have sovereign power over Eretz Yisroel, then you cannot say that if the Jews attain such power it is a sign that the Oath is null. For if so, it is impossible to violate the Oath, as violating it would mean aschalta d'geulah. Makes no sense. Even if there were such a thing as the Jews banding together politically, it would have to be specifically OUTSIDE of Eretz Yisroel.
Secondly, saying that the Jews must be "united militarily" before Gog and Magog because otherwise how can they fight them, is absurd. First, the war of Gog and Magog will take place after the appearance of Moshiach, who will lead us into battle. Second, who in the world decided that the Jews will be prepared for this war? (Was Israel prepared for the Yom Kippur war?) The war could unfold in so many ways --- where did you get this narrow picture from? The whole idea has no source whatsoever.
And even giving it credence - that does not exist in reality - who in the world says that such a military buildup constitutes the beginning of the geulah? Just because something is necessary for the war of Gog and Magog does not mean that the Geulah is here when that happens???
---
The idea that a Geulah that is performed through human beings - even Moshe and Aharon - is necessarily temporary is in the Medrash Rabbah, and quoted by the Lubavitcher Rebbe Rashab regarding the Zionists. The fact that Moshe could have been Moshiach is not a problem, since had that been the case, then Hashem would have intervened and performed the Geulah the way He will iy"h when the real Geulah arrives.
As far as Koresh goes, there is no comparison between him and the Zionists. The idea is not that the Zionists were not "frum enough" but rather, they were enemies of Hashem, rehayim, kofrim, evil-doers, and more, their intention in creating the State of Israel was a totally unholy one: namely, "nihiyeh kechol hagoyim", and even to eliminate religion altogether.
It is therefore unthinkable that the anti-G-d actions of these anti-G-d people represent the ultimate revelation of G-d's Honor, the redemption itself. Forget it. It's absurd.
Koresh, on the other hand, was a righteous king. "Koresh was a kosher king, therefore, he is counted as if he were one of the Malchei Yisroel" (Rosh Hashanah 3b). Koresh, unlike the Zionists, made a decree that everyone should fear Hashem ("the G-d of Daniel").
Koresh was indeed acting in accordance with the express wishes of Hashem. "So said Koresh, King of Persia: 'Hashem ... has commanded me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, in the Land of Yehuda." (Ezra 1:2)
(I.e. Hashem commanded me through Yehsayah the prophet to build the Santuary in Jerusalem" - Rashi).
And despite all of this, only 1500 Jews heeded Koresh's call to return to Erezt Yisroel. The reason, says the Ramban in Maamar HaGeulah (ch. 1), is that only the Jews of Bavel had a prophecy that the Golus was over. The rest of the Jews refused to emigrate to Erezt Yisroel en masse because since they did not have a prophecy that the Geulah has ended for them, doing so would have violated the Oaths!
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When Moshiach comes, we won't have to worry about the Arabs. First of all, when Moshiach comes, the entire world will be so scared of him and so impressed by him that even the goyim will follow him to seek his advice. The goyim will get together to try to plot strategy of how to prevent themselves from being overtaken by him, but to no avail. His strength and the hand of G-d redeeming us will vanquish them. When the Geulah comes, the goyim will not be a problem. Now, they are. And the Zionists just made that problem a lot worse, Hashem yishmereinu.
---
From the journal Hapardes (Year 11, Issue 7):
“Rabbi Wasserman, Rabbi Kotler, Rabbi Rottenberg from Antwerp, and Rabbis from Czechoslovakia and Hungary were unanimous in rejecting any proposal for a “Jewish State” on either side of the Jordan River, even if it were established as a religious state because such a regime would be a form of heresy in our faith in the belief in the coming of the Messiah, and especially since this little “Jewish” state would be built on heresy and desecration of the Name of G-d."
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Rav Shach: “Klall Yisroel is still in Golus until Moshiach comes, even if we are in Eretz Yisroel. This is not Geulah nor Atchaltah D’Geulah. [And since it is still Golus therefore] we are commanded not to defy the nations of the world.” (Letters 1:3)
We must try to appease our enemies; the Chilonim cannot be trusted to make proper decisions for the country
“We are one sheep against 70 wolves, this is not a figure of speech but meant literally and it will remain so until Moshiach comes. Because if this, Jews always lived alone, as a nation, and as individuals, and all of us knew what we face, and that we always needed to act according to the advice of Yaakov Avinu with prayer [to Hashem] and giving gifts (i.e. appeasement) to the nations. As for the third option of Yaakov, “war”, which Rashi says means, “so that the remaining camp will survive”, that is, to run away (See also Ramban) – that is only when the situation arises that someone is coming to kill you, you should kill them, like Yaakov who was summoned by Esav (and prepared for the possibility of Esav trying to kill him). But not everybody can use this rule, for the Chilonim and the non-religious, since they do not care about their own life, they surely do not care about the lives of others (Pesachim 49b). For their outlook is that the Jewish Nation is like other nations, and the truth is, to their lifestyle, there is nothing separating them and the other nations. And so we cannot rely on them to consider every option, and not to do something that constitutes “defying the other nations” (Hisgarus B’Umos)” (Letters 1:4)
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There is no ingathering happening now. While it is true that many people are making Aliyah, that does not constitute "ingathering of exiles", besides which many are making Yeridah as well, becoming car service drivers and furniture movers in Chutz Laaretz.
Kibutz Goliyos wont happen anyway, until after Mohsiach comes, as you say in Shemonah Esrei - "yitakah beshoraf gadol lechariusainu, v'sa nes lekabetz" etc. Who do you think is going to blow that shofar?
And, as the Ravvad mentions, Kibutz Goliyus will not happen by peopel going straight into EY. First we will have to wander in the desert again for 40 years with Moshiach, the way we did the first time, and only afterwards will we reach or ultimate goal of going into EY.
And all that happens after Moshiach comes.
---
Rav Elchonon Wasserman writes, tongue in cheek of course, that the only way the State is going to hasten the redemption is according to the GRA who writes that any suffering the Jews have in Golus counts as "credit" against time in Golus - and since the State of Israel is likely to be the greatest suffering the Jews ever had in their 2,000 years of exile, we should get a lot of time in golus reduced because of it.
---
The world does not have to be against Jews for Moshiach to come. The only thing that has to happen is that Klall Yisroel will do Teshuva.
And even if it were so, Jewish people getting killed is not something we should be happy about even if it causes Moshiach to come. Moshiach's coming is G-d's job. Ours is to fulfill the Torah, and the Torah wants us to make sure Jews live, and not to be so cruel as to be happy when one dies - even if that happiness is because it is a "sign" that Moshiach is coming. And that is true even if Jews are in danger of being killed.
The Brisker Rav ZTL pointed this out by the Halachah that Moshiach cannot come on Shabbos, due to the Techum. This shows, he said, that even if the Geulah could be brought, and all the problems of Klall Yisroel would end, fulfilling the Torah - even one Halachah - is much more important.
The Rebbe Reb Bunim of Prshyscha ZTL once said, similarly, that he could bring Moshiach, but he will not. The reason is, because when Moshiach will come, there will be a welcoming celebration, and all the Tzadikim will be sitting on the dais, and right next to Moshiach will be the Godol Hador, the Yid Hakodosh of Prshyscha.
Moshiach will ask the Yid, "How did you finally do it? How did you bring me?"
"And the Yid will have to point all the way in the back of the room, where I will be standing," the Rebbe Reb Bunim said, and he will have to say 'See that man Bunim? he brought you'. "
And in that moment, the Yid Hakodosh will be embarrassed that he's such a big Tzadik, and it took me, a simple Jew, to bring Moshiach.
To save the Yid HaKodosh that embarrassment, it is worth not to bring Moshiach.
Rav Schenur Kotler ZTL used to say over that story, and add that it has a source in Chumash. When Hashem told Moshe to bring the Jews out of Egypt, he said he doesn’t want to do it because Aharon will feel bad that he wasn't the Go'el.
Moshiach is a great thing, but not allowing pain to another Jew is even greater.
Nothing is greater than Torah.
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